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For years, the vaccine debate was confined largely to the traditional childhood vaccines like DPT (diphtheria-pertussis-tetanus), MMR (measles-mumps-rubella) and polio. Even then, there were major concerns. The pertussis vaccine, for example, is notorious for having rare but horrendous side effects, and most polio cases in the world in recent years have been caused by the live-virus vaccine itself!

But in recent times, many new childhood vaccines have been introduced, from rotavirus and chickenpox to hepatitis B, meningitis and pneumonia, each with their own controversies and, in some cases, scandals. At first, the new vaccines are just ‘’suggested,” then they became ”recommended" by pediatricians, and before long they’re ”required” before entering public school.

"A one-year-old healthy child today can get 10 different antigens injected into his body in one day," warns columnist Barbara Simpson in this issue of Whistleblower. "No one knows the effect on his immune system, and such tests haven’t been conducted."

I would be more scared of my child dying from communicable and preventable diseases, personally. But that’s my opinion.

Swine Flu vaccine more dangerous than Swine Flu? Mandatory Vaccines?
Will there be mandatory swine flu vaccinations in the USA? I live in Hawaii and its one of the only 2 US states that dismiss you from getting shots due to Religion. Will this apply if we have mandatory swine flu shots?

Okay so in 1976 the was another flu scare. While one American died from the flu itself… 100 died from the VACCINE and many others became paralyzed and had other issues. In February, the company Baxter sent out another vaccine to 18 countries… it turns out the Vaccines had the Avian flu virus in them (60% lethal) and would have killed thousands if (by luck) one of the countries didn’t try it out on animals first (who all died), and its literally impossible for this to have been an accident! The same company Baxter is the one making the swine flu vaccines. I’m thinking, the swine flu may have killed 86 people in the US, but how many more will the vaccine kill or damage? I’d rather get the hardly lethal swine flu than take my chances with a vaccine. Who knows how many people will have allergic reactions or have lethal reactions period if EVERYONE is forced to take it!!!? I don’t know about you, but I’d rather have swine flu twice than take the vaccine once (its just like a regular flu!).

Can someone please enlighten me if there will be mandatory vaccinations… even in Hawaii?

Thanks!

Hi Colorado,
unfortunately, Dr. Guess guessed wrong.
The pharmaconglomerate and their appointees at the FDA and CDC are pushing hard for compulsory vaccination. Initially on the "softer" state level but this will be followed up at the state level. See Health Freedom Foundation for current state of play.

Blessed be

Karma Singh

My account was suspended because of a question in which I said that vaccines were dangerous and could be mandatory. Is this the thought police?
This isn’t a joke. They really did suspend my account after deleting a few of my questions and answers all dealing with the dangers of vaccines (along with good links to back them up: https://secure.eznettools.net/D305742/X367201/science/health-issues/vaccines-brainDamage.html ) and, one question they deleted was when I asked if I would get in trouble for sending the mayor a subscription to Natural News! Will someone please look into this and give me a real answer?

Probably not if you are careful how you say it. Put it in a question form and post links to websites that contain the info you want people to see.

For instance ask something like "Do you think that what it says here about [such and such] is true?" [and post the link]

Or if you make statements as to what you believe be sure to give good reasons why and post a disclaimer. Again, be careful how you say it and post authoritative links to back it up.

I’ve been hearing stuff like swine flu being dangerous, but then when the vaccine came out, a lot of people started telling me not to take the vaccine or else it could kill you.

What’s so bad about the vaccine? Is it really dangerous, more than the flu itself? Is it neccessary to warn my family not to take the vaccine?

I’m sorry, I kind of don’t understand what some articles mean about the vaccine.

There are some people who believe that vaccines are harmful. Any and all vaccines. They have no evidence to back their assertions. None. Pure rumor mongering at its worst.

Here is the scoop. Some of the first vaccines used live virii(the plural of virus is virii, not viruses) – wounded, but live. There were a few, very few, cases (like maybe 2-3) where the virus wasn’t wounded enough and someone actually got the virus from the vaccine. These days they have perfected the art of making a good vaccine with dead virii in it. There is no possible way to get infected from a dead virus. None. However, as your body goes through the process of creating anti-bodies, it is going to react as though you had the virus. So you may experience some symptoms that you associate with the flu. These are usually quite mild. However, people who are convinced that you can get a virus from a vaccine see people getting a vaccine, experiencing some minor symptoms, and point to it as proof that that person got the virus from the vaccine.

Some people are just so totally distrustful of doctors that they want to believe that doctors, all doctors of all kinds, don’t know what they are doing. We all love irony, but this is taking that love of irony to the extreme. They will readily accept any information, no matter how dubious, that doctors are wrong, and immediately reject any information, no matter how much evidence there is to back it up, that doctors are right. They will only listen to people who parrot their own preconcieved notions. In short, they are idiots.

Hey everyone,
My daughter is going to go in for her 2 month vaccines but I’m very concerned!!!! I’m literally freaking out about it because I have read horrible things about it online, however I know that if my daughter doesn’t get her shots she might get very sick later on. I don’t know what to do.. i read that children have died after, gotten brain damage and had continous seizures. My doctor says they’re normal with little side effects but I have a bad feeling about them. Can you please share your stories with me??? Thank you.
I’m probably just overreacting but after reading those horrible letters, it really scared me. I love my daughter and only wish and do what’s best for her thats why I’m so concerned. Thanks everyone for your answers!!

Here’s the safest route for now. Delay the vaxxes and do A LOT more research.

Compare the risks of the vaccines, their ingredients and where they are obtained and the number of reported adverse reactions. (Unfortunately many people do not, or worse are convinced by their doctors not to, repost the reactions their children have. )
Gather up these statistics and then do some research on the prevalence of the diseases you are thinking about trying to vaccinate for. Notice when the decline in cases started, what the number of reported cases of each disease is in your area and anywhere you may move to or travel to.

Lastly if and when you do vaccinate (I am not telling you not to, I just wish everyone would inform themselves!) be sure to have each dose given separately, be sure to get and keep the package inserts and the batch number (in case of a recall) and be sure to keep a close eye on your babe for any reactions. Report ANYTHING that differs from normal behavior!

People will fill you with all sorts of horror stories either way. Arm yourself with the FACTS and statistics!

There are exemptions in every state for those that don’t vax for various reasons.

Here are some helpful websites:
http://vaers.hhs.gov/

http://www.mothering.com/articles/growing_child/vaccines/vaccines.html

http://thinktwice.com/hepb.htm

The FDA is now warning parents not to give over the counter cold medications to infants under 2 years old. Yet, they recommend you pump your child full of MULTIPLE vaccines all at one time, generally overpowering the infant’s developing immune system. What kind of sense does THAT make??
I’m glad to see at least one medical practitioner who doesn’t toe the standard medical line on vaccinations being perfectly safe for young children.

I’d rather my child be "pumped full of vaccines" as you so elegantly put it, than to be struck down with polio, measles, mumps, rubella, meningitis, or diphtheria, to name a few!

should they be illegal if there too dangerous

The substance should be banned from all vaccines. As usual someone posted it’s been removed from vaccines-not true I’m afraid.
Here’s why I say that-enjoy.
Boyd Haley, Professor of Chemistry, University of Kentucky, Lexington, KY

Many, myself included, have pointed to genetic susceptibility to a specific toxin, namely thimerosal, as the most likely cause of the autism epidemic since thimerosal (read ethylmercury) was the most toxic material the infants were exposed to before autism was diagnosed, and the fact that the epidemic increase occurred in all 50 states at about the same time the CDC mandated its vaccine program. Also, Dan Olmstead reported that non-vaccinated populations seemed not to have autism. Dr. Amy Holmes reported that autistic infants do not seem as capable of excreting mercury as do neurotypical children. Dr. Jill James showed that autistics have lower glutathione levels than neurotypical children and medicine knows that most mercury is removed from infants as the glutathione-Hg complex through the billary transport system of the liver into the feces. If infants don’t have enough bile and not enough glutathione then they are up fecal street if given a massive dose of thimerosal on the day of birth or in the first few months of their lives.

Lack of reduced glutathione is a sign of oxidative stress that can be caused by infections, or toxins—and mercury is known to reduce glutathione levels very rapidly. So we don’t know if the initial oxidative stress seen in autistics is due to mercury or other causes—but we do know that mercury in vaccines would exacerbate the proven oxidative stress seen in these children.

Why blame thimerosal? Dr. Robert Nataf first showed that autistic children have a "urinary porphyrin profile" that shows they are mercury toxic. There is a build up of specific porphryins in mercury toxic humans and rats as shown by Dr. James Wood and others, so this is solid science. This unusual porphyrin build up (increased coproporphyrinogen III) is caused by mercury preventing this terminal porphyrin molecule from entering the mitochondria through the mito’s inner membrane where it is converted to heme (the oxygen carrying molecule of hemoglobin). So there is no doubt that mercury can cause a "mitochondrial disorder". Heme is also used in the cytochromes of the ETS (electron transport system) in the inner mitocondrial membrane and a lack of heme would inhibit the ability of the ETS to support the synthesis of ATP (the molecule that is used for DNA, RNA and protein synthesis (e.g. glutathione). Also, heme is required for the enzymes that remove organic toxins from the body (the cytochrome P450 system)leading to additional organic toxin build up. The ETS is also high in iron-sulfur clusters that would bind mercury with negative effects. Bottom line, mercury inhibition of this one pathway can cause numerous secondary biochemical problems seen in autistic children and in other neurological illnesses. This occurs in the mitochondria.

Add to this the fact that levels of thimerosal, levels surpassed by vaccinations of infants, can easily reach the level that inhibits methione synthetase (prevents effect methylation as reported by Dr. Deth) and that blocks phagocytosis (the first step in the immune system). This is why thimerosal is an effective immune system suppressor (and this makes you wonder who made the decision to approve it in vaccines).

Others have reported the mercury inhibition of the intestinally located PPIV protease that leads to the build up of proline containing peptides from gluten and casein that bind to morphine receptors. In our laboratory we have recently determined that another enzyme, matrix metallo proteinase or (MMP), that breaks down collagen (the major matrix protein that holds cells together)is activated by mercury and thimerosal at very low concentrations. Google MMP and see all of the infammatory diseases that are accompanied by the activation of this enzyme, which mercury does! MMP activation likely leads to a leaky gut type of problem. So, in a thimerosal toxic child the inhibition of PPIV increases the production of neurotoxic peptides and the activation of MMP increases the ability of these peptides (as well as other food derived peptides)to cross the intestinal barrier. It is a double whammy that again could lead to other problems secondary to the initial mercury toxic event. Autoimmune indicators fit into this scenario also.

Finally, it irritates me to no end when I hear CDC officials and leaders of pediatrics state that the science does not support an autism-vaccine (thimerosal) connection. Their choosing to place more value on poorly done epidemiological studies (done entirely by foreigners who can’t be subpoenaed)rather than evaluate the actual biological science shows the contempt or ignorance they have for toxicological/biochemical research. The CDC continues to stay at rock bottom and digging a deeper hole for themselves. It is my prediction that their self-imposed ignorance will become legendary and will greatly damage medicine and the vaccine program. Our country needs to take the search for the possible causes away from the CDC or it will never be resolved—which I think is their main goal.

It is not safe for pregnant women to get a flu shot containing the preservative thermasol!!
I implore you to read this entire post. I know it is long but you need this inf.
It’s about time an MD made this statement about the flu vaccine!!! Thank you Dr Ayoub.
http://v.mercola.com/blogs/post.aspx?app… <http://v.mercola.com/blogs/post.aspx?App=public_blog&PostID=4470&Subscribed=1>
David Ayoub MD – Thimerosal Definite Cause Of Autism
By Evelyn PringleMiamisburg Ohio

To what degree of scientific certainty can we prove that currentepidemic of autism was caused by the mercury-based preservative,thimerosal, in childhood vaccines?

In response to this question, David Ayoub, MD, told IndependentMedia TV, ”I can state that the certainty of the science supporting mercury as a major cause of autism is probably more overpowering than the science behind any other disease process that I studied dating back to medical school.”
"I think a disease that effects more individuals than AIDS or
cancer, in previously normal infants and children," he states, "has created a sense of urgency amongst researchers."

According to Ayoub, "A growing number of experimental,
epidemiological and biochemical research, has unequivocally shown that mercury is directly linked to the development of autism spectrum disorders and is significantly toxic to the gastrointestinal, immunological, metabolic and neurobiological systems in children."

"The science of causality is known and understood down to themanner in which mercury impairs the neural pathways of attention,"he adds, "I really don’t see the need for more research to prove causality." He believes the focus should be "directed towards
methods to remove mercury from the body and repairing those biochemical systems that are injured by mercury."

Ayoub is the Director of the Prairie Collaborative for
Immunization, an organization that is self-funded, which aids
organizations, journalists, and legislators obtain accurate
information to assist their work. He is also the author of the
report, "Pregnancy and the Myth of Influenza Vaccination-Is it
safe, is it effective, is it necessary? What the CDC documents reveal."
Vaccines With Thimerosal

When asked what vaccines still contain the mercury-based,
thimerosal, Ayoub said, "The major culprit today is the influenza vaccine." About 80% of flu vaccines contain as much as 25 micrograms of mercury per dose. Since the EPA has set a limit of 0.1 mcg/kg (1 kg =2.2 lbs), Ayoub warns, everyone who receives the vaccine will be overdosed.

He explained that in 1999, "the Public Health Service (including the CDC and FDA), the American Academy of Pediatrics, and vaccine manufacturers agreed that thimerosal levels in vaccines should be reduced or eliminated."

However, he adds, "Contradicting its own policy, the CDC then increased mercury exposure to the fetus and infant by allowing the inoculation of pregnant women and young infants with the mercury-containing influenza vaccine."

On May 28, 2004, the Advisory Committee on Immunization Practice of the CDC released its annual report with recommendations for the prevention of influenza. The report included pregnant women amongst those who should receive the flu vaccine, even though the report noted only a minimal benefit from the vaccine in pregnant women:

"Researchers estimate that an average of 1-2 hospitalizations can be prevented for every 1,000 pregnant women vaccinated" (1, page 10)

In fact, for the 2003-04 flu season, the CDC reported "only 3 to 14% of those who got vaccinated were protected against the flu." It seems overly aggressive, Ayoub maintains, for the CDC to recommend that all pregnant women be vaccinated when, in fact, scientific data to date shows only marginal benefits and the only documented benefit seems to be fewer hospitalizations, not fewer morbidities or mortalities.

The benefit of influenza vaccination during pregnancy becomes even more questionable when considering the resulting risks to unborn infants. According to the ACIP, the safety of influenza vaccination is established by the following research:

One study of influenza vaccination of 2,000 pregnant women
demonstrated no adverse fetal effects associated with influenza vaccine."

However, according to Ayoub, "In the April 12, 2002 MMWR, this same statement was followed by the caveat "additional data are needed to confirm the safety of vaccination during pregnancy." The comment was then

i am living overseas…and some vaccines were imported for me by a company that imports vaccines. So they were imported well. But now my problem is finding a clinic to administer them. I am storing the vaccines in my refrigerator and trying to keep them at a temperature of about 4-8 Celsius. But sometimes the temperature gets above 8 Celsius. What happens to vaccines when they aren’t stored at the optimal temperature? do they become dangerous?

They have just lost their potency. They are not any more dangerous than they normally are.http://www2a.cdc.gov/vaccines/ed/shtoolkit/pages/cold_chain.htm

However, I would advise you not use them now because with loss of potency, they have lost their benefits but still have the risks that they normally do.

I am curious which vaccines they are, and what country you are in?

im scared! we hav 2 get it done at skl. im scared if its dangerous in anyway. u kno mmr vaccine n how it gave diseases as well as helps u. well im scared if this will happen with this injection 2. so will it??

to go with the first persons answer…they dont inject the ‘live’ cervical cancer pathogen. instead, in the vaccine it contains a dead or partally dead pathogen…they are too weak to actually infect u with cancer

it will NOT make u sick basically

i got them…i heard they hurt a lot but they didnt hurt me at all. they feel like any old shot….u feel the pinch but its just like pinching ur arm. it hurts for 1 second.

however ur arm will be sore for a day or 2 afterwards